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					<description><![CDATA[thank you]]></description>
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		By: Pitfall #2 More than Just a Villain&#8211;Understanding the Antagonist &#171; Kristen Lamb&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pitfall #2 More than Just a Villain&#8211;Understanding the Antagonist &#171; Kristen Lamb&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] antagonist. Additionally, I recommend The Sociopath Next Door by Dr. Martha Stout PhD. I also have an earlier blog about the antagonist that might offer some additional clarification. We should seek to learn all we can, because the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] antagonist. Additionally, I recommend The Sociopath Next Door by Dr. Martha Stout PhD. I also have an earlier blog about the antagonist that might offer some additional clarification. We should seek to learn all we can, because the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Writing a Novel&#8211;Plot or Character? Which Comes First? Part II &#171; Warriorwriters&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Writing a Novel&#8211;Plot or Character? Which Comes First? Part II &#171; Warriorwriters&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Begin constructing your plot. First, what is the inciting incident? What one thing puts Joe Schmoe in direct conflict with your antagonist? A REAL antagonist. Not war or a storm or fascism or even global warming. A REAL antagonist, literary flesh and blood. For those who desire more insight into the antagonist, I suggest an earlier blog on this exact topic, “Beyond Bastards, Bullies, and Bad Girls—Understanding the Antagonist.” http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Begin constructing your plot. First, what is the inciting incident? What one thing puts Joe Schmoe in direct conflict with your antagonist? A REAL antagonist. Not war or a storm or fascism or even global warming. A REAL antagonist, literary flesh and blood. For those who desire more insight into the antagonist, I suggest an earlier blog on this exact topic, “Beyond Bastards, Bullies, and Bad Girls—Understanding the Antagonist.” <a href="http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/ " rel="nofollow ugc">http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/ </a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Gail Zerrade		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I struggle with wanting to redeem my villain, so I appreciated this post. &quot;Can&#039;t we all just get along&quot; does not make a good story. Thanks for the book recommendations. I&#039;m off to look for them now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle with wanting to redeem my villain, so I appreciated this post. &#8220;Can&#8217;t we all just get along&#8221; does not make a good story. Thanks for the book recommendations. I&#8217;m off to look for them now.</p>
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		By: warriorwriters		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2010/01/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/#comment-574&quot;&gt;Lynne Spreen&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad I could help. The antag role is probably the most misunderstood. Please stop by again and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2010/01/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/#comment-574">Lynne Spreen</a>.</p>
<p>Glad I could help. The antag role is probably the most misunderstood. Please stop by again and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</p>
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		By: Lynne Spreen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne Spreen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post is pivotal for me, a real education on antags. As Rummy would have said, I didn&#039;t know what I didn&#039;t know! Thanks for posting. And love the Martha Stout reference. Socios are SO interesting.
Lynne
www.MyFictionWritingTips.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is pivotal for me, a real education on antags. As Rummy would have said, I didn&#8217;t know what I didn&#8217;t know! Thanks for posting. And love the Martha Stout reference. Socios are SO interesting.<br />
Lynne<br />
<a href="http://www.MyFictionWritingTips.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.MyFictionWritingTips.com</a></p>
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		By: Writing a Novel&#8211;Plot or Character? Which Comes First? &#171; Warriorwriters&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Writing a Novel&#8211;Plot or Character? Which Comes First? &#171; Warriorwriters&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...]  5.  Begin constructing your plot. First, what is the inciting incident? What one thing puts Joe Schmoe in direct conflict with your antagonist? A REAL antagonist. Not war or a storm or fascism or even global warming. A REAL antagonist, literary flesh and blood. For those who desire more insight into the antagonist, I suggest an earlier blog on this exact topic, “Beyond Bastards, Bullies, and Bad Girls—Understanding the Antagonist.” http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/ [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  5.  Begin constructing your plot. First, what is the inciting incident? What one thing puts Joe Schmoe in direct conflict with your antagonist? A REAL antagonist. Not war or a storm or fascism or even global warming. A REAL antagonist, literary flesh and blood. For those who desire more insight into the antagonist, I suggest an earlier blog on this exact topic, “Beyond Bastards, Bullies, and Bad Girls—Understanding the Antagonist.” <a href="http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: eeleen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s a useful post that clears up a very common confusion. just like the confusion between &#039;plot&#039; and &#039;story&#039;

thank you for posting this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s a useful post that clears up a very common confusion. just like the confusion between &#8216;plot&#8217; and &#8216;story&#8217;</p>
<p>thank you for posting this.</p>
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		By: warriorwriters		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2010/01/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/#comment-570&quot;&gt;SJ Driscoll&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree...which is why I used her picture, LOL. She was pretty vile. GWTW is worth of a doctoral thesis. I know the commentary I gave pales for what this work deserves. But it is a good illustration of how WAR was not the antagonist (at least not directly). Depending on what one views as the central question will affect who one believes serves the antagonist role. But...sigh..this is why this work will be discussed for generations.  Thanks for the comment!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2010/01/beyond-bastards-bullies-and-bad-girls/#comment-570">SJ Driscoll</a>.</p>
<p>I agree&#8230;which is why I used her picture, LOL. She was pretty vile. GWTW is worth of a doctoral thesis. I know the commentary I gave pales for what this work deserves. But it is a good illustration of how WAR was not the antagonist (at least not directly). Depending on what one views as the central question will affect who one believes serves the antagonist role. But&#8230;sigh..this is why this work will be discussed for generations.  Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		By: SJ Driscoll		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SJ Driscoll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always saw Scarlett as one of the first female antiheroes. She could be considered a heroine in terms of story structure but, in terms of storyline, she&#039;s the villain. She doesn&#039;t rise above anything--she was a bitchy, self-involved diva who lived off slave labor before and after the war. Though they&#039;re not the focus of the story, Melanie and Rhett are the heroine and hero. Part of the genius of the story is this structural reversal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always saw Scarlett as one of the first female antiheroes. She could be considered a heroine in terms of story structure but, in terms of storyline, she&#8217;s the villain. She doesn&#8217;t rise above anything&#8211;she was a bitchy, self-involved diva who lived off slave labor before and after the war. Though they&#8217;re not the focus of the story, Melanie and Rhett are the heroine and hero. Part of the genius of the story is this structural reversal.</p>
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