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		By: Kyla		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5232</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One resource I recommend is to watch Criminal Minds on CBS. Awesome show, and really makes you think about killers and why they do the horrific things they do. It even makes you feel sorry for them on occasion.

I don&#039;t like to read books on psychopaths. They give me flashbacks. I have suffered a very...shall we say, traumatizing event in my life. What I usually build my villains from is the understanding I have of evil and those who commit it because of that traumatizing event. However, I suppose I can TRY to read a few of these books.

I have the ultimate villain (what you call the BBT) and a few minor villains in my series. I know intimately what drives them to commit the terrible things they do, but...the biggest motivation they have is a secret throughout this series, as I have a plan for that big reveal in ANOTHER series. Yes, I know. I should finish the one I&#039;m working on before planning another series, but I couldn&#039;t help it. I wanted to hint at later storylines in this series, so I needed to know what later storylines would be about. I have this obsession with circles. I like everything to connect in one, big plot circle, all of it coming together to form a perfect whole.

I spent months planning this whole thing out in an attempt to accomplish that circle, so I understand my characters and their reasoning very, very well.

I actually feel very sorry for a lot of my villains. They&#039;re trouble, and they have to die in order for my main character to live, but...I&#039;ve kind of grown attached to them. Some of them you can sympathize with. Others you love to hate. Anyway, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m creating villains with depth yet...but they seem awfully deep to me. The only thing left is to show that depth to my readers.

Thanks for all the great advice! Have a great day, and happy writing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One resource I recommend is to watch Criminal Minds on CBS. Awesome show, and really makes you think about killers and why they do the horrific things they do. It even makes you feel sorry for them on occasion.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like to read books on psychopaths. They give me flashbacks. I have suffered a very&#8230;shall we say, traumatizing event in my life. What I usually build my villains from is the understanding I have of evil and those who commit it because of that traumatizing event. However, I suppose I can TRY to read a few of these books.</p>
<p>I have the ultimate villain (what you call the BBT) and a few minor villains in my series. I know intimately what drives them to commit the terrible things they do, but&#8230;the biggest motivation they have is a secret throughout this series, as I have a plan for that big reveal in ANOTHER series. Yes, I know. I should finish the one I&#8217;m working on before planning another series, but I couldn&#8217;t help it. I wanted to hint at later storylines in this series, so I needed to know what later storylines would be about. I have this obsession with circles. I like everything to connect in one, big plot circle, all of it coming together to form a perfect whole.</p>
<p>I spent months planning this whole thing out in an attempt to accomplish that circle, so I understand my characters and their reasoning very, very well.</p>
<p>I actually feel very sorry for a lot of my villains. They&#8217;re trouble, and they have to die in order for my main character to live, but&#8230;I&#8217;ve kind of grown attached to them. Some of them you can sympathize with. Others you love to hate. Anyway, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m creating villains with depth yet&#8230;but they seem awfully deep to me. The only thing left is to show that depth to my readers.</p>
<p>Thanks for all the great advice! Have a great day, and happy writing!</p>
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		By: Thyself &#171; The Gig		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5231</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 16:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Kristen Lamb&#8217;s series on antagonists, she recommends reading books about the psychology of sociopaths. My first [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Kristen Lamb&#8217;s series on antagonists, she recommends reading books about the psychology of sociopaths. My first [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Aanna		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5230</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GREAT STUFF!!!

I am such a huge wimp that just seeing the titles of those books on psychology and sociopaths sent tingles up my spine. I guess I&#039;m just going to have to sleep with my nightlight on while I develop my villain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT STUFF!!!</p>
<p>I am such a huge wimp that just seeing the titles of those books on psychology and sociopaths sent tingles up my spine. I guess I&#8217;m just going to have to sleep with my nightlight on while I develop my villain.</p>
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		By: Make Your Antagonist a Force for Good &#124; Jami Gold, Paranormal Author		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 14:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Lamb has been running a fantastic series on antagonists (Part One, Part Two, Villains, Balancing Evil, Inner and Outer Demons).  She shares more gems than I can capture here, so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Lamb has been running a fantastic series on antagonists (Part One, Part Two, Villains, Balancing Evil, Inner and Outer Demons).  She shares more gems than I can capture here, so [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Elisa Jaime		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5228</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5227&quot;&gt;Author Kristen Lamb&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re right, of course. Dark heroes are always the most interesting: they always keep you guessing whether or not they&#039;re going to run afoul of the law. Xena comes to mind. And I&#039;m reminded of Harry Potter, too, because he and Voldemort are so much a part of each other (physically, even). I think there&#039;s so much to work with when you can play off similarities and differences between villain and hero. Thanks again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5227">Author Kristen Lamb</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, of course. Dark heroes are always the most interesting: they always keep you guessing whether or not they&#8217;re going to run afoul of the law. Xena comes to mind. And I&#8217;m reminded of Harry Potter, too, because he and Voldemort are so much a part of each other (physically, even). I think there&#8217;s so much to work with when you can play off similarities and differences between villain and hero. Thanks again!</p>
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		By: Author Kristen Lamb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5226&quot;&gt;Elisa Jaime&lt;/a&gt;.

Good question. I think that the great villains always will steal the show, just because we tend to be fascinated with darkness. Hannibal was far more interesting than Clarice and Darth was way more interesting than Skywalker. I think the measure of a hero is in the darkness he/she conquers. Weak antag (villain) and weak story/boring protag. I believe one way it to make the hero more &quot;real&quot; so people can easily empathize and fit in the hero&#039;s skin. Then narcissism will help from there, LOL :D.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5226">Elisa Jaime</a>.</p>
<p>Good question. I think that the great villains always will steal the show, just because we tend to be fascinated with darkness. Hannibal was far more interesting than Clarice and Darth was way more interesting than Skywalker. I think the measure of a hero is in the darkness he/she conquers. Weak antag (villain) and weak story/boring protag. I believe one way it to make the hero more &#8220;real&#8221; so people can easily empathize and fit in the hero&#8217;s skin. Then narcissism will help from there, LOL :D.</p>
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		By: Elisa Jaime		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 17:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Kristen. I think it&#039;s very important to know the difference between a villain and an antagonist, as you write in this post. And that the best villains are the ones that you can empathize with. Hannibal Lecter is one of my favorites. I think his humor is delicious but I wouldn&#039;t ever want to be anywhere near him. I find Lecter in Silence of the Lambs to be a great little conundrum: he&#039;s evil and we&#039;re afraid of him but he&#039;s also Clarice&#039;s main source of information to crack the case she&#039;s working on. Lecter personifies the old adage: &quot;knowledge is power&quot; (and &quot;lesser evil&quot;, now that I think about it!) in many different ways.

I have one question for you: How can you avoid making your villain bigger than your protag? What sort of things can you subtract or underplay without taking away from the magical evil of the villain?

Thanks for sharing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Kristen. I think it&#8217;s very important to know the difference between a villain and an antagonist, as you write in this post. And that the best villains are the ones that you can empathize with. Hannibal Lecter is one of my favorites. I think his humor is delicious but I wouldn&#8217;t ever want to be anywhere near him. I find Lecter in Silence of the Lambs to be a great little conundrum: he&#8217;s evil and we&#8217;re afraid of him but he&#8217;s also Clarice&#8217;s main source of information to crack the case she&#8217;s working on. Lecter personifies the old adage: &#8220;knowledge is power&#8221; (and &#8220;lesser evil&#8221;, now that I think about it!) in many different ways.</p>
<p>I have one question for you: How can you avoid making your villain bigger than your protag? What sort of things can you subtract or underplay without taking away from the magical evil of the villain?</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		By: PK Hrezo		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5225</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 18:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joker is a perfect example because her goes into detail why he is the way he is. He was tormented himself, which doesn&#039;t excuse his villainy, but it sure does explain it and almost makes us sympathize with him. I&#039;m right in the middle of crafting a villain now and wow is it fun!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joker is a perfect example because her goes into detail why he is the way he is. He was tormented himself, which doesn&#8217;t excuse his villainy, but it sure does explain it and almost makes us sympathize with him. I&#8217;m right in the middle of crafting a villain now and wow is it fun!</p>
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		By: Mind Sieve 4/4/11 &#171; Gloria Oliver&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Kristen Lamb talks about Antagonists. [...]]]></description>
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		By: Graeme Cree		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5223</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 14:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5222&quot;&gt;Author Kristen Lamb&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s been years since I&#039;ve seen the manual, but I vaguely remember it describing neutral characters as feeling that Good and Evil were both necessary forces to maintaining the balance of the universe, or some such.  Sounds like Eastern philosophy, and and I&#039;ve never quite understood the mindset.  Like, take Star Wars.  We&#039;ve got a benevolent Republic running the galaxy, things are going great, everyone is happy, prosperous, free and well educated.  Yet, for some reason, they decided they needed to bring &quot;balance&quot; to the Force.  As a result of their efforts, the Good Republic is destroyed and an Evil dictatorship takes the reins for years.  Well, that is balance.  But why did we want it again?

As far as Neutrals, yeah I can see the point that Neutrals are essentially Chaotic, just not as often (if that makes sense).  Someone Neutral on Law vs. Chaos might follow the rules for their own sake some of the time, while a Chaotic character would almost never follow them (unless by accident).  But yeah, you&#039;re right, Neutral Good and Chaotic good are closer to each other than to Lawful good.  The Neutral Good character is Lawful sometimes, but isn&#039;t reliable.

Personally, I find it easier to imagine being Neutral on the question of Law vs. Chaos than on the question of Good vs. Evil.  A person who didn&#039;t care about either one because he only cared about himself would be Evil in my book.  And, as in the Star Wars example, someone who cared about both, out of some desire for &quot;balance&quot; is probably confused.  Either that, or I am.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/03/introducing-the-villain/#comment-5222">Author Kristen Lamb</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been years since I&#8217;ve seen the manual, but I vaguely remember it describing neutral characters as feeling that Good and Evil were both necessary forces to maintaining the balance of the universe, or some such.  Sounds like Eastern philosophy, and and I&#8217;ve never quite understood the mindset.  Like, take Star Wars.  We&#8217;ve got a benevolent Republic running the galaxy, things are going great, everyone is happy, prosperous, free and well educated.  Yet, for some reason, they decided they needed to bring &#8220;balance&#8221; to the Force.  As a result of their efforts, the Good Republic is destroyed and an Evil dictatorship takes the reins for years.  Well, that is balance.  But why did we want it again?</p>
<p>As far as Neutrals, yeah I can see the point that Neutrals are essentially Chaotic, just not as often (if that makes sense).  Someone Neutral on Law vs. Chaos might follow the rules for their own sake some of the time, while a Chaotic character would almost never follow them (unless by accident).  But yeah, you&#8217;re right, Neutral Good and Chaotic good are closer to each other than to Lawful good.  The Neutral Good character is Lawful sometimes, but isn&#8217;t reliable.</p>
<p>Personally, I find it easier to imagine being Neutral on the question of Law vs. Chaos than on the question of Good vs. Evil.  A person who didn&#8217;t care about either one because he only cared about himself would be Evil in my book.  And, as in the Star Wars example, someone who cared about both, out of some desire for &#8220;balance&#8221; is probably confused.  Either that, or I am.</p>
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