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		By: End of May Wandering the Blogoverse Roundup &#124; On a Pale Star		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Lamb on Antagonists&#8211;The Alpha and Omega of the Story. “As I have said in previous lessons, there is no story without the antagonist. Period. The story [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Lamb on Antagonists&#8211;The Alpha and Omega of the Story. “As I have said in previous lessons, there is no story without the antagonist. Period. The story [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: #ROW80 Update and Fun Finds &#124; Sadie Hart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[#ROW80 Update and Fun Finds &#124; Sadie Hart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 19:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] The Moose likes this post: Antagonists- The Alpha and the Omega of the story by Kristen Lamb. She believes villians, like Naughty Dogs, should be multidimensional. Evil [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Moose likes this post: Antagonists- The Alpha and the Omega of the story by Kristen Lamb. She believes villians, like Naughty Dogs, should be multidimensional. Evil [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Irene Vernardis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irene Vernardis]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article and so true :)  I have found myself too, when viewing movies, wanting the bad guy to win or make it at the end.

Bad guys are not necessarily evil.  There is a difference between evil and bad.

Thank you for a very interesting article :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and so true 🙂  I have found myself too, when viewing movies, wanting the bad guy to win or make it at the end.</p>
<p>Bad guys are not necessarily evil.  There is a difference between evil and bad.</p>
<p>Thank you for a very interesting article 🙂</p>
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		By: The YaYa Pantserhood of the Traveling Plotline &#171;		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I found enlightening:  Start your planning with the antagonist of the story. (Kristen Lamb has a great post on this, and bonus, she&#8217;s funny.)  Like most romance writers, I always start with a sexy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I found enlightening:  Start your planning with the antagonist of the story. (Kristen Lamb has a great post on this, and bonus, she&#8217;s funny.)  Like most romance writers, I always start with a sexy [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Peter Saint-Clair&#039;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sunday Smash Up #1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Antagonists–The Alpha and the Omega of the Story &#8211; by my WWBC buddy and author of We Are Not Alone: The Writer&#8217;s Guide to Social Media, Kristen Lamb [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Antagonists–The Alpha and the Omega of the Story &#8211; by my WWBC buddy and author of We Are Not Alone: The Writer&#8217;s Guide to Social Media, Kristen Lamb [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mardee Calkins		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kristen! Thanks for being so smart, you short-cutted me right into being social media savvy. Laurie McLean mentioned your blog and book at a writer&#039;s conference in Austin last weekend and all I&#039;ve done since is read your book, your tweets, and your blog....you&#039;ve opened a new world for me, not only for my writing (my love), but also for my gym (my second love :O)). As a long time writer (and spin, Pilates and yoga studio owner), I feel some control of my writing career for the first time. I&#039;m working on my pen name, website and still reading We Are Not Alone, and then I&#039;ll get my blog on. I got Bob Mayer&#039;s book, as well, next on my list of &quot;Kristen Recommendations&quot;.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
Mardee Calkins]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristen! Thanks for being so smart, you short-cutted me right into being social media savvy. Laurie McLean mentioned your blog and book at a writer&#8217;s conference in Austin last weekend and all I&#8217;ve done since is read your book, your tweets, and your blog&#8230;.you&#8217;ve opened a new world for me, not only for my writing (my love), but also for my gym (my second love :O)). As a long time writer (and spin, Pilates and yoga studio owner), I feel some control of my writing career for the first time. I&#8217;m working on my pen name, website and still reading We Are Not Alone, and then I&#8217;ll get my blog on. I got Bob Mayer&#8217;s book, as well, next on my list of &#8220;Kristen Recommendations&#8221;.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!<br />
Mardee Calkins</p>
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		By: Anna Silvernail Sweat		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[These are such excellent points to make! I love my antagonists as much or more than my protagonists. They usually have a more fascinating history and are psychologically more complex. I think having an antagonist the reader can identify with is as important as a protagonist the reader can identify with. One of my favorite examples of an empathy-evoking antagonist is the Phantom in Phantom of the Opera. I boo hoo for him at the end of every stage or screen version I&#039;ve seen (and subjected my poor husband to). I love his tragic past, ugly mug and music noir. And I always think Christine is such a blithering idiot for going after oh-so-typical Count Popular. Those are the best antagonists! The ones you can&#039;t stop thinking about, talking about and sympathizing with long after the story has ended.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are such excellent points to make! I love my antagonists as much or more than my protagonists. They usually have a more fascinating history and are psychologically more complex. I think having an antagonist the reader can identify with is as important as a protagonist the reader can identify with. One of my favorite examples of an empathy-evoking antagonist is the Phantom in Phantom of the Opera. I boo hoo for him at the end of every stage or screen version I&#8217;ve seen (and subjected my poor husband to). I love his tragic past, ugly mug and music noir. And I always think Christine is such a blithering idiot for going after oh-so-typical Count Popular. Those are the best antagonists! The ones you can&#8217;t stop thinking about, talking about and sympathizing with long after the story has ended.</p>
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		By: Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Borean aka The Mad Hatter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Normal World hints that all is not well. It doesn’t hang us over a cliff or a tank of sharks or have us in a hospital weeping over a lost loved one. That is melodrama. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Impossible to do, since the main point of my trilogy is that we have a young man who is lost in a world he doesn&#039;t understand. He has amnesia. It isn&#039;t until most of the way into the third book that we find out why he has amnesia, and who the actual antagonist that he&#039;s been fighting, through proxies, is.

So I started things off with him staggering along, with a terrible headache, and a goose egg on the side of his head. Hopefully I can keep everyone interested in who and what he is.

Wayne]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Normal World hints that all is not well. It doesn’t hang us over a cliff or a tank of sharks or have us in a hospital weeping over a lost loved one. That is melodrama. </p></blockquote>
<p>Impossible to do, since the main point of my trilogy is that we have a young man who is lost in a world he doesn&#8217;t understand. He has amnesia. It isn&#8217;t until most of the way into the third book that we find out why he has amnesia, and who the actual antagonist that he&#8217;s been fighting, through proxies, is.</p>
<p>So I started things off with him staggering along, with a terrible headache, and a goose egg on the side of his head. Hopefully I can keep everyone interested in who and what he is.</p>
<p>Wayne</p>
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		By: Les Howard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Les Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/04/antagonists-the-alpha-and-the-omega-of-the-story/#comment-5728&quot;&gt;Piper Bayard&lt;/a&gt;.

The 2007 movie with Christian Bale and Russel Crowe was a very good action movie. There was a previous movie version (1957 I think) with Van Heflin as Dan Evans and Glen Ford as Ben Wade. The 1957 one was more character driven. 3:10 To Yuma was originally a short story by Elmore Leonard, one of my favorite authors. You might like to compare the original story with the two movie versions. You can find it in a copy of &#039;The Complete Western Stories of Elmore Leonard&#039; which many libraries carry.

Ben Wade also occurred to me but then I thought of JR Ewing in Dallas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/04/antagonists-the-alpha-and-the-omega-of-the-story/#comment-5728">Piper Bayard</a>.</p>
<p>The 2007 movie with Christian Bale and Russel Crowe was a very good action movie. There was a previous movie version (1957 I think) with Van Heflin as Dan Evans and Glen Ford as Ben Wade. The 1957 one was more character driven. 3:10 To Yuma was originally a short story by Elmore Leonard, one of my favorite authors. You might like to compare the original story with the two movie versions. You can find it in a copy of &#8216;The Complete Western Stories of Elmore Leonard&#8217; which many libraries carry.</p>
<p>Ben Wade also occurred to me but then I thought of JR Ewing in Dallas.</p>
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		By: Author Kristen Lamb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Author Kristen Lamb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/04/antagonists-the-alpha-and-the-omega-of-the-story/#comment-5751&quot;&gt;Darlene Cohn&lt;/a&gt;.

All antagonists have a proxy. In &quot;Steele Magnolias&quot; diabetes/death is the antagonist manifested by the daughter Shelby. All good fiction has an antagonist. A story is only as strong as its antagonist. Those genres do have antagonists, but maybe not villains. In &quot;Footloose&quot; the antagonist is religious fundamentalism that forbids dancing, represented by the town&#039;s preacher. Internal conflict must manifest externally or it is therapy. It isn&#039;t commercial fiction.

Internal conflict will still have an external representative who is the antagonist. In the movie &quot;28 Days&quot; Sandra Bullock&#039;s character is up against her own addiction to alcohol. BUT her partying boyfriend represents that demon she must conquer. There is an external story driving her change. She doesn&#039;t just wake up one day and decide to get sober. She is arrested for DUI. So the external antagonist (BBT) is the judge with the powert to send her to jail if she doesn&#039;t get clean, and the councelor who is trying to help her get sober even though she is fighting him every step of the way.

I keep having people throw out the idea of weather being an antagonist, but how many books are on the best-seller list where the hero is conquering a storm? Yeah, I want to read a book about someone taking on a hail storm....or not. Weather is usually not the antagonist. Even in books that revolve around a storm, there is another character who is the antagonist. In &quot;The Perfect Storm&quot; the crew split dpown the middle...those who wanted to brave the storm and salvage the catch and those who didn&#039;t feel it was worth it. The crux of the story revolves around which side will win. Oh and everyone dies. Crappy book and crappy movie.

We must understand what real conflict is, and genuine conflict is characer-generated. A bad situation is not conflict. I recommend reading this post and that might help clear things up. &lt;a href=&quot;http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/hooking-the-reader-and-never-letting-go/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hooking the Reader and Never Letting Go&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2011/04/antagonists-the-alpha-and-the-omega-of-the-story/#comment-5751">Darlene Cohn</a>.</p>
<p>All antagonists have a proxy. In &#8220;Steele Magnolias&#8221; diabetes/death is the antagonist manifested by the daughter Shelby. All good fiction has an antagonist. A story is only as strong as its antagonist. Those genres do have antagonists, but maybe not villains. In &#8220;Footloose&#8221; the antagonist is religious fundamentalism that forbids dancing, represented by the town&#8217;s preacher. Internal conflict must manifest externally or it is therapy. It isn&#8217;t commercial fiction.</p>
<p>Internal conflict will still have an external representative who is the antagonist. In the movie &#8220;28 Days&#8221; Sandra Bullock&#8217;s character is up against her own addiction to alcohol. BUT her partying boyfriend represents that demon she must conquer. There is an external story driving her change. She doesn&#8217;t just wake up one day and decide to get sober. She is arrested for DUI. So the external antagonist (BBT) is the judge with the powert to send her to jail if she doesn&#8217;t get clean, and the councelor who is trying to help her get sober even though she is fighting him every step of the way.</p>
<p>I keep having people throw out the idea of weather being an antagonist, but how many books are on the best-seller list where the hero is conquering a storm? Yeah, I want to read a book about someone taking on a hail storm&#8230;.or not. Weather is usually not the antagonist. Even in books that revolve around a storm, there is another character who is the antagonist. In &#8220;The Perfect Storm&#8221; the crew split dpown the middle&#8230;those who wanted to brave the storm and salvage the catch and those who didn&#8217;t feel it was worth it. The crux of the story revolves around which side will win. Oh and everyone dies. Crappy book and crappy movie.</p>
<p>We must understand what real conflict is, and genuine conflict is characer-generated. A bad situation is not conflict. I recommend reading this post and that might help clear things up. <a href="http://warriorwriters.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/hooking-the-reader-and-never-letting-go/" rel="nofollow">Hooking the Reader and Never Letting Go</a>.</p>
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