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		By: The Writer&#039;s Weekly Wrap-Up (Issue #17) - Your Writer Platform		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Writer&#039;s Weekly Wrap-Up (Issue #17) - Your Writer Platform]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Top 5 Panel-Van-Creepy Social Media Tactics from Kristen Lamb at Kristen Lamb&#8217;s Blog [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Top 5 Panel-Van-Creepy Social Media Tactics from Kristen Lamb at Kristen Lamb&#8217;s Blog [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: lisawhitefern		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lisawhitefern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t use bots either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use bots either.</p>
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		By: lisawhitefern		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lisawhitefern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another top notch blog, you really hit them out of the park. I really hate twitter DMs that are just promo from robots, so offensive and will NEVER work. I do post some promo on my twitter time line and it does sometimes result in sales, but that out there in the open not aimed at specific people and not DM, I&#039;m not trying to create false intimacy with a DM which i think is so rude, because it&#039;s disappointing, private messages are supposed to be from friends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another top notch blog, you really hit them out of the park. I really hate twitter DMs that are just promo from robots, so offensive and will NEVER work. I do post some promo on my twitter time line and it does sometimes result in sales, but that out there in the open not aimed at specific people and not DM, I&#8217;m not trying to create false intimacy with a DM which i think is so rude, because it&#8217;s disappointing, private messages are supposed to be from friends.</p>
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		By: swiveltam		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swiveltam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40569&quot;&gt;Author Kristen Lamb&lt;/a&gt;.

Your &quot;gut&quot; is probably more fine-tuned than mine. :) I still have trouble filtering out the real creeps and the bumbling tweeters/facebookers. Thanks for responding :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40569">Author Kristen Lamb</a>.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;gut&#8221; is probably more fine-tuned than mine. 🙂 I still have trouble filtering out the real creeps and the bumbling tweeters/facebookers. Thanks for responding 🙂</p>
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		By: P.I. Barrington		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P.I. Barrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with you Kristen 100%! I&#039;ve had to put Twitter on my back burner this year and when I started interacting with it again, ALL I&#039;ve gotten are the sales or site pitch bots! That irritates me to no end when I follow someone and they respond with a bot pushing their books. Half the time I remove them for that alone. I&#039;ve never used bots or pretty much anything you&#039;ve described and I used to have a klout score of 80 because I interacted with my Tweetlets personally and went through their posts and links myself before I RT&#039;d them.
I&#039;ve posted reviews, releases, etc., but always do it myself live.
I have no idea whether these bots or tactics work for other authors &#038; their sales but I find it rude and condescending let alone creepy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Kristen 100%! I&#8217;ve had to put Twitter on my back burner this year and when I started interacting with it again, ALL I&#8217;ve gotten are the sales or site pitch bots! That irritates me to no end when I follow someone and they respond with a bot pushing their books. Half the time I remove them for that alone. I&#8217;ve never used bots or pretty much anything you&#8217;ve described and I used to have a klout score of 80 because I interacted with my Tweetlets personally and went through their posts and links myself before I RT&#8217;d them.<br />
I&#8217;ve posted reviews, releases, etc., but always do it myself live.<br />
I have no idea whether these bots or tactics work for other authors &amp; their sales but I find it rude and condescending let alone creepy.</p>
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		By: M.J. Pullen		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.J. Pullen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40541&quot;&gt;nightsmusic&lt;/a&gt;.

Your point makes sense, definitely. I think we just differ in our approach to twitter -- I have my private Facebook page that is  (somewhat) separate from my writing life, where I post pictures of my kids and personal info. I guard that carefully and only &#039;friend&#039; people I actually know -- and not all of them!

Then I have more &#039;public&#039; spaces like my author page and Twitter, where I&#039;m more breezy because I am trying to widen my circle. To me, following is sort of like smiling at a stranger at a big party or convention -- just a polite acknowledgment that person exists. Sometimes this leads to me re-tweeting something interesting they&#039;ve posted, or starting a conversation that creates a deeper relationship. Other times, not.

In any case, if they do the creepy stuff Kristen mentions above, I tend to unfollow, just like I would someone who tried to sell me amway at a party. I also unfollow people whose tweets are offensive or obnoxious, or the same tweet every time I see them pop up. But the &#039;follow&#039; itself doesn&#039;t bother me -- and my follow is theirs to lose.

Btw, I have no idea what the inner workings are behind twitter&#039;s suggestions for people to follow, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;s based at least partly on similar keywords to self and other users you&#039;ve followed recently, which is why we all tend to get authors -- established and not -- in our suggestions list.

PS - Sorry it took me a couple of days to respond - I was (gasp!) blissfully offline! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40541">nightsmusic</a>.</p>
<p>Your point makes sense, definitely. I think we just differ in our approach to twitter &#8212; I have my private Facebook page that is  (somewhat) separate from my writing life, where I post pictures of my kids and personal info. I guard that carefully and only &#8216;friend&#8217; people I actually know &#8212; and not all of them!</p>
<p>Then I have more &#8216;public&#8217; spaces like my author page and Twitter, where I&#8217;m more breezy because I am trying to widen my circle. To me, following is sort of like smiling at a stranger at a big party or convention &#8212; just a polite acknowledgment that person exists. Sometimes this leads to me re-tweeting something interesting they&#8217;ve posted, or starting a conversation that creates a deeper relationship. Other times, not.</p>
<p>In any case, if they do the creepy stuff Kristen mentions above, I tend to unfollow, just like I would someone who tried to sell me amway at a party. I also unfollow people whose tweets are offensive or obnoxious, or the same tweet every time I see them pop up. But the &#8216;follow&#8217; itself doesn&#8217;t bother me &#8212; and my follow is theirs to lose.</p>
<p>Btw, I have no idea what the inner workings are behind twitter&#8217;s suggestions for people to follow, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s based at least partly on similar keywords to self and other users you&#8217;ve followed recently, which is why we all tend to get authors &#8212; established and not &#8212; in our suggestions list.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Sorry it took me a couple of days to respond &#8211; I was (gasp!) blissfully offline! 🙂</p>
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		By: John Muccillo (@johnmuccillo)		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Muccillo (@johnmuccillo)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with everything you&#039;ve written in this post Kristen. I&#039;m a little amazed that this post was necessary. The &quot;creepy&quot; things you listed should seem wrong on their face, so what does it say of the state of our social skills that these missteps happen as much as they do.

Maybe people fear being genuine, and so they blurt their &quot;elevator pitch&quot; instead of starting a conversation. Our Tweets and Facebook messages ought to offer our thoughts about where we are at that moment - what we are feeling. We could offer an interesting thought that isn&#039;t about our book, and add our website link to the post.

If someone likes what you have to say they&#039;re likely not only to comment, but also click on that link to explore on their own. Mystery often intrigues people to the point of action.

I feel that really good marketing leaves those who see it wanting more. I&#039;ll always try to NOT give someone enough information to make the &quot;buying decision.&quot; Instead, I want to plant questions that they can only get answered by reaching out to me. People like to buy, not be sold.

Thanks again for your thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything you&#8217;ve written in this post Kristen. I&#8217;m a little amazed that this post was necessary. The &#8220;creepy&#8221; things you listed should seem wrong on their face, so what does it say of the state of our social skills that these missteps happen as much as they do.</p>
<p>Maybe people fear being genuine, and so they blurt their &#8220;elevator pitch&#8221; instead of starting a conversation. Our Tweets and Facebook messages ought to offer our thoughts about where we are at that moment &#8211; what we are feeling. We could offer an interesting thought that isn&#8217;t about our book, and add our website link to the post.</p>
<p>If someone likes what you have to say they&#8217;re likely not only to comment, but also click on that link to explore on their own. Mystery often intrigues people to the point of action.</p>
<p>I feel that really good marketing leaves those who see it wanting more. I&#8217;ll always try to NOT give someone enough information to make the &#8220;buying decision.&#8221; Instead, I want to plant questions that they can only get answered by reaching out to me. People like to buy, not be sold.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your thoughts.</p>
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		By: Author Kristen Lamb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Author Kristen Lamb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40568&quot;&gt;swiveltam&lt;/a&gt;.

I think it&#039;s a &quot;gut&quot; thing. If it&#039;s someone I&#039;ve chatted with on FB or Twitter or whose commented on my blog? No problem. But just a random, &quot;Hey I liked your page now like mine&quot; out of the ether? A bit creepy to me. But all of this IS subjective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2013/09/top-5-panel-van-creepy-social-media-tactics/#comment-40568">swiveltam</a>.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a &#8220;gut&#8221; thing. If it&#8217;s someone I&#8217;ve chatted with on FB or Twitter or whose commented on my blog? No problem. But just a random, &#8220;Hey I liked your page now like mine&#8221; out of the ether? A bit creepy to me. But all of this IS subjective.</p>
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		By: swiveltam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swiveltam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read this post and liked it, then as I was falling asleep some thoughts niggled me,as they usually do when I try to sleep, but it was regarding tactic #5

&quot;If you like someone, great. &quot;Like&quot; their fan page. DO NOT &quot;like&quot; someone&#039;s page as a ploy to get them to return the favor&quot;

AND

&quot;Yes, social media is social, and people will often respond in kind out of relationship reciprocity, but we need to initiate the reciprocity. We don&#039;t need an e-mail saying things like, Hey, I liked your author page. Why didn&#039;t you like me back?&quot;

For the record, I DO NOT &quot;like&quot; someone&#039;s page and EVER ask them to like mine back (that seems poor form) but I&#039;m not THAT offended when people want me to look at their blog or their FB page, if I like it, I like it, or comment on a blog post that I can relate to.

Also, how can we build a supportive community if we don&#039;t make an effort for each other? If someone has gone out of their way to visit my page, I feel it rude not to at least LOOK at theirs. Usually there is something I can find to connect with.

Maybe the askers are needy? Maybe they haven&#039;t read  (YOUR--Kristen&#039;s) blog? Maybe they have something wonderful to share and haven&#039;t figured out how to do it yet. Or how about being kind even when someone is being rude to you, leading by example? We need room for understanding.

With tactic #5 it almost seems like you are saying we should not EXPECT reciprocation from other? (maybe my brain went off on a tangent and that&#039;s not what you&#039;re saying at all) For example if you invite me for dinner, I am going to make every effort to invite you back or at least bring something when I come over, that&#039;s good manners. You can expect that from me.

This concept of &quot;lack of expectation&quot; is confusing me.

Do you think that there is no room for expecting real world social manners in cyberland?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this post and liked it, then as I was falling asleep some thoughts niggled me,as they usually do when I try to sleep, but it was regarding tactic #5</p>
<p>&#8220;If you like someone, great. &#8220;Like&#8221; their fan page. DO NOT &#8220;like&#8221; someone&#8217;s page as a ploy to get them to return the favor&#8221;</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, social media is social, and people will often respond in kind out of relationship reciprocity, but we need to initiate the reciprocity. We don&#8217;t need an e-mail saying things like, Hey, I liked your author page. Why didn&#8217;t you like me back?&#8221;</p>
<p>For the record, I DO NOT &#8220;like&#8221; someone&#8217;s page and EVER ask them to like mine back (that seems poor form) but I&#8217;m not THAT offended when people want me to look at their blog or their FB page, if I like it, I like it, or comment on a blog post that I can relate to.</p>
<p>Also, how can we build a supportive community if we don&#8217;t make an effort for each other? If someone has gone out of their way to visit my page, I feel it rude not to at least LOOK at theirs. Usually there is something I can find to connect with.</p>
<p>Maybe the askers are needy? Maybe they haven&#8217;t read  (YOUR&#8211;Kristen&#8217;s) blog? Maybe they have something wonderful to share and haven&#8217;t figured out how to do it yet. Or how about being kind even when someone is being rude to you, leading by example? We need room for understanding.</p>
<p>With tactic #5 it almost seems like you are saying we should not EXPECT reciprocation from other? (maybe my brain went off on a tangent and that&#8217;s not what you&#8217;re saying at all) For example if you invite me for dinner, I am going to make every effort to invite you back or at least bring something when I come over, that&#8217;s good manners. You can expect that from me.</p>
<p>This concept of &#8220;lack of expectation&#8221; is confusing me.</p>
<p>Do you think that there is no room for expecting real world social manners in cyberland?</p>
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		By: Diana Beebe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana Beebe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2013 00:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had one auto-DM that thanked me for following and then asked me to follow his author wife. She can&#039;t get her own followers?

An old college friend connected with me on FB and then started a conversation, &quot;How&#039;s it going? It&#039;s been so long!&quot; I replied and never heard another personal peep from her. It was a great conversation--not! *rolls eyes*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one auto-DM that thanked me for following and then asked me to follow his author wife. She can&#8217;t get her own followers?</p>
<p>An old college friend connected with me on FB and then started a conversation, &#8220;How&#8217;s it going? It&#8217;s been so long!&#8221; I replied and never heard another personal peep from her. It was a great conversation&#8211;not! *rolls eyes*</p>
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