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		By: michellefgoddard		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article, Kristen - I linked to it on my post as I thought it had great points to consider and wanted to share it with my readers - thanks so much for putting this out there. I&#039;m also following and love W.A.N.A.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Kristen &#8211; I linked to it on my post as I thought it had great points to consider and wanted to share it with my readers &#8211; thanks so much for putting this out there. I&#8217;m also following and love W.A.N.A.</p>
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		By: Charlie_ jh134		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2015 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;https://thecompasslocket.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Compass Locket&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="https://thecompasslocket.wordpress.com/2015/08/13/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/" rel="nofollow">The Compass Locket</a>.</p>
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		By: What Went Wrong with Season 2 of &#8220;True Detective&#8221;? Cautionary Lessons for Writers &#124; Kristen Lamb&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[What Went Wrong with Season 2 of &#8220;True Detective&#8221;? Cautionary Lessons for Writers &#124; Kristen Lamb&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] When we write for critics, more times than not, we end up with Franken-Novel, which I wrote about in my post Franken-Novel, Perfectionism &#038; The Dark Side of Critique Groups. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] When we write for critics, more times than not, we end up with Franken-Novel, which I wrote about in my post Franken-Novel, Perfectionism &amp; The Dark Side of Critique Groups. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: thesexiestwriter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I discovered that most critique groups were more concerned about getting new writers (not experienced writers) to pad their numbers. In other words, there was a lot of &quot;That&#039;s really good&quot; and not much &quot;Here&#039;s how you can improve&quot;. I live in the middle of fumblebuck and have to drive a couple of hours to participate, so I save the gas money and spend it on beer and big macs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered that most critique groups were more concerned about getting new writers (not experienced writers) to pad their numbers. In other words, there was a lot of &#8220;That&#8217;s really good&#8221; and not much &#8220;Here&#8217;s how you can improve&#8221;. I live in the middle of fumblebuck and have to drive a couple of hours to participate, so I save the gas money and spend it on beer and big macs.</p>
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		By: Lora D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lora D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 14:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57810&quot;&gt;Author Kristen Lamb&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much for letting me know--I thought they were the same thing.

I really appreciate all of your blogs and read them religiously. Whenever I recommend you to someone, I find out they are already following you! Your advice and guidance are vitally important to sooooooo many of us. Thank you!!

Have a blessed and peaceful day. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57810">Author Kristen Lamb</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for letting me know&#8211;I thought they were the same thing.</p>
<p>I really appreciate all of your blogs and read them religiously. Whenever I recommend you to someone, I find out they are already following you! Your advice and guidance are vitally important to sooooooo many of us. Thank you!!</p>
<p>Have a blessed and peaceful day. 🙂</p>
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		By: Author Kristen Lamb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Author Kristen Lamb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57809&quot;&gt;Lora D&lt;/a&gt;.

Good ones likely don&#039;t charge anything. Content editors will charge but betas are just people who like to read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57809">Lora D</a>.</p>
<p>Good ones likely don&#8217;t charge anything. Content editors will charge but betas are just people who like to read.</p>
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		By: Lora D		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lora D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2015 04:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How much do beta readers charge for critiquing full-length novels and for novellas?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much do beta readers charge for critiquing full-length novels and for novellas?</p>
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		By: Daven Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57808</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daven Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57758&quot;&gt;Laura&lt;/a&gt;.

One good rule: A first-person POV protagonist should (under normal circumstances) never describe things/beings they are accustomed to interacting with. This was hard on one writer in my old group who had a first-person protagonist on another planet. He wouldn&#039;t be logically commenting on purple trees, crawling rocks or three moons, when those are part of his everyday world. A human POV on another planet, by contrast, would logically comment internally on every difference they observe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57758">Laura</a>.</p>
<p>One good rule: A first-person POV protagonist should (under normal circumstances) never describe things/beings they are accustomed to interacting with. This was hard on one writer in my old group who had a first-person protagonist on another planet. He wouldn&#8217;t be logically commenting on purple trees, crawling rocks or three moons, when those are part of his everyday world. A human POV on another planet, by contrast, would logically comment internally on every difference they observe.</p>
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		By: emilyardenauthor		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2015/04/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/#comment-57807</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 05:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;https://emilyardenauthor.wordpress.com/2015/04/18/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Emily Arden, author&lt;/a&gt; and commented:
Another great blogpost from Kristen Lamb - it is so important to get the balance right between seeking and acting on constructive, helpful feedback (to improve writing) and avoiding the pain and pitfalls of unhelpful feedback which ends up derailing a writing project. Good luck find the balance!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="https://emilyardenauthor.wordpress.com/2015/04/18/franken-novel-perfectionism-the-dark-side-of-critique-groups/" rel="nofollow">Emily Arden, author</a> and commented:<br />
Another great blogpost from Kristen Lamb &#8211; it is so important to get the balance right between seeking and acting on constructive, helpful feedback (to improve writing) and avoiding the pain and pitfalls of unhelpful feedback which ends up derailing a writing project. Good luck find the balance!</p>
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		By: emilyardenauthor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2015 05:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fantastic post Kristen - again, lots to think about. It is tricky to get the balance right between accepting useful constructive feedback that helps improve your work while avoiding the pitfalls of advice that undermines your vision or creates an overworked monster out of your writing. Good luck everyone (and I hope you can all find good advice).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post Kristen &#8211; again, lots to think about. It is tricky to get the balance right between accepting useful constructive feedback that helps improve your work while avoiding the pitfalls of advice that undermines your vision or creates an overworked monster out of your writing. Good luck everyone (and I hope you can all find good advice).</p>
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