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		By: David Anderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2017 02:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;For the love of God, why are men in romance and erotica novels so damn chatty when they are having sex?&quot;

Just one of the reasons men can&#039;t stand Romance novels. I read some of it because it&#039;s the best selling genre. I wondered if I could incorporate anything from it. The men and the dialogue were so unrealistic and so purple I thought I&#039;d puke. 

Great stories often have great love stories as part of it. But that is not what you find in most romance and erotica.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For the love of God, why are men in romance and erotica novels so damn chatty when they are having sex?&#8221;</p>
<p>Just one of the reasons men can&#8217;t stand Romance novels. I read some of it because it&#8217;s the best selling genre. I wondered if I could incorporate anything from it. The men and the dialogue were so unrealistic and so purple I thought I&#8217;d puke. </p>
<p>Great stories often have great love stories as part of it. But that is not what you find in most romance and erotica.</p>
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		By: Jessica Edouard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica Edouard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2017 03:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am commenting to win...cum on, I mean, come on lucky number seven. 

PS...I&#039;ve enjoyed the takeover immensely, and I promise to never use &quot;old.&quot; Ewww, grandpa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am commenting to win&#8230;cum on, I mean, come on lucky number seven. </p>
<p>PS&#8230;I&#8217;ve enjoyed the takeover immensely, and I promise to never use &#8220;old.&#8221; Ewww, grandpa.</p>
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		By: Writing Links 6/26/17 &#8211; Where Genres Collide		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2017 11:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/ Is your hero too chatty? [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/" rel="ugc">https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/</a> Is your hero too chatty? [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ro Molina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2017 23:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had a blast at the last Shifter writing class and this one is definitely next on my list. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a blast at the last Shifter writing class and this one is definitely next on my list. 🙂</p>
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		By: Earnest Painter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Earnest Painter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I mean, if you&#039;re going to have a coup d&#039;etat, it may as well be a steamy one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, if you&#8217;re going to have a coup d&#8217;etat, it may as well be a steamy one.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2017 09:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/#comment-78056&quot;&gt;Mary Foster&lt;/a&gt;.

An interesting point, Mary. It gave me a sense of déjà vu. I too learnt to ‘get inside’ my characters’ inner selves from writing their more intimate encounters.

The first crime novel I wrote, ‘Transactions’ - “The special selection box of assorted tarts”, had two teenaged schoolgirl prostitutes at the core of its plot, who would come from their well to do country home into Bristol city centre to work the streets. They’d change at the station, and each would be picked up by a couple of early evening kerb crawlers (on streets notorious at the time for streetwalkers). The money they earned paid for their night out clubbing and a taxi home. (This was based on a real scenario I was told about, though I made the two girls sisters in my book whereas the originals were just ‘best friends’). Naturally the competition from two pretty, well dressed, youngsters  upset the regular street girls who were often working to support a drug habit.

 One teenager was over the age of consent, while the other was just below, so when I got the book accepted by a publisher (after polishing and re-writing considerably) some of the, albeit sensitively written, sex scenes were questioned. The publisher liked the writing but felt that although Amazon were OK about sex scenes, they frowned on any details where underaged sex was concerned. Amazon was an important gateway, as most books he published were in Kindle format initially to be followed by paperback editions. 

It was suggested that I either made both girls older, which would spoil the jeopardy element of the plot (Would the younger girl’s unaware regular client be caught out or not?) or that I should seriously edit those scenes involving the younger, but older looking (important to the plot), sister. I did the latter, which in fact improved the book by implying and suggesting more than was actually described in the scenes. My publisher was happy with the result (https://www.ex-l-ence.com/collections/crime-detective/products/transactions)

However, writing those original scenes, which one female beta reader was sad to hear I’d cut because she found them tender and warm rather than blatantly erotic, taught me to write from within my characters rather than writing as an outside observer simply reporting what’s going on.

Nothing’s wasted though, as those removed scenes were saved in my ‘useful stuff’ file and later re-used, with only changes to names, hair, dress, and other relevant details, in a later story in what became the ‘Lena’s Friends’ series of crime novels. The latest one, ‘Sharknose’ - “Seeing that toyshop has just reminded me of something” has just been published in Kindle edition, with paperback to follow shortly. (https://www.ex-l-ence.com/collections/lenas-friends/products/sharknose)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/#comment-78056">Mary Foster</a>.</p>
<p>An interesting point, Mary. It gave me a sense of déjà vu. I too learnt to ‘get inside’ my characters’ inner selves from writing their more intimate encounters.</p>
<p>The first crime novel I wrote, ‘Transactions’ &#8211; “The special selection box of assorted tarts”, had two teenaged schoolgirl prostitutes at the core of its plot, who would come from their well to do country home into Bristol city centre to work the streets. They’d change at the station, and each would be picked up by a couple of early evening kerb crawlers (on streets notorious at the time for streetwalkers). The money they earned paid for their night out clubbing and a taxi home. (This was based on a real scenario I was told about, though I made the two girls sisters in my book whereas the originals were just ‘best friends’). Naturally the competition from two pretty, well dressed, youngsters  upset the regular street girls who were often working to support a drug habit.</p>
<p> One teenager was over the age of consent, while the other was just below, so when I got the book accepted by a publisher (after polishing and re-writing considerably) some of the, albeit sensitively written, sex scenes were questioned. The publisher liked the writing but felt that although Amazon were OK about sex scenes, they frowned on any details where underaged sex was concerned. Amazon was an important gateway, as most books he published were in Kindle format initially to be followed by paperback editions. </p>
<p>It was suggested that I either made both girls older, which would spoil the jeopardy element of the plot (Would the younger girl’s unaware regular client be caught out or not?) or that I should seriously edit those scenes involving the younger, but older looking (important to the plot), sister. I did the latter, which in fact improved the book by implying and suggesting more than was actually described in the scenes. My publisher was happy with the result (<a href="https://www.ex-l-ence.com/collections/crime-detective/products/transactions" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ex-l-ence.com/collections/crime-detective/products/transactions</a>)</p>
<p>However, writing those original scenes, which one female beta reader was sad to hear I’d cut because she found them tender and warm rather than blatantly erotic, taught me to write from within my characters rather than writing as an outside observer simply reporting what’s going on.</p>
<p>Nothing’s wasted though, as those removed scenes were saved in my ‘useful stuff’ file and later re-used, with only changes to names, hair, dress, and other relevant details, in a later story in what became the ‘Lena’s Friends’ series of crime novels. The latest one, ‘Sharknose’ &#8211; “Seeing that toyshop has just reminded me of something” has just been published in Kindle edition, with paperback to follow shortly. (<a href="https://www.ex-l-ence.com/collections/lenas-friends/products/sharknose" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ex-l-ence.com/collections/lenas-friends/products/sharknose</a>)</p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/#comment-78056&quot;&gt;Mary Foster&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mary -

In my first novel, I did put in a sex scene--not heavy, just there. Later, felt it showed the passion, but didn&#039;t think it belonged. It was fine for me to write it and delete. Sort of like backstory but something that never occurred... It did show up in their actions the passion they had toward one another -- without jumping into bed, and how much they had to fight it back. So the look don&#039;t touch scenes became more powerful in subsequent revisions. Their other emotions -- like what you shared -- were stronger.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/#comment-78056">Mary Foster</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mary &#8211;</p>
<p>In my first novel, I did put in a sex scene&#8211;not heavy, just there. Later, felt it showed the passion, but didn&#8217;t think it belonged. It was fine for me to write it and delete. Sort of like backstory but something that never occurred&#8230; It did show up in their actions the passion they had toward one another &#8212; without jumping into bed, and how much they had to fight it back. So the look don&#8217;t touch scenes became more powerful in subsequent revisions. Their other emotions &#8212; like what you shared &#8212; were stronger.</p>
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		By: Mary Foster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Foster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2017 15:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once felt compelled - if conflicted - to write a certain sex scene. After much angst I did write it, and it was powerful. The feedback I got was: &quot;It&#039;s a masterpiece!&quot; (Grrr, why hadn&#039;t anyone said that my other writing was masterful? Later I forgave them, because they had excellent reasons for not praising my previous work.) 

BUT THE IMPORTANT PART of the experience was that after getting so intimate with my characters, my writing dramatically improved. Suddenly I knew how to live inside my characters hearts and minds. Dialogue improved exponentially and I could now have fun with my characters, shed tears with them, anguish for them, etc.

The sex scene never made it into the novel, but the novel finally came to life. Thanks for letting me share.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once felt compelled &#8211; if conflicted &#8211; to write a certain sex scene. After much angst I did write it, and it was powerful. The feedback I got was: &#8220;It&#8217;s a masterpiece!&#8221; (Grrr, why hadn&#8217;t anyone said that my other writing was masterful? Later I forgave them, because they had excellent reasons for not praising my previous work.) </p>
<p>BUT THE IMPORTANT PART of the experience was that after getting so intimate with my characters, my writing dramatically improved. Suddenly I knew how to live inside my characters hearts and minds. Dialogue improved exponentially and I could now have fun with my characters, shed tears with them, anguish for them, etc.</p>
<p>The sex scene never made it into the novel, but the novel finally came to life. Thanks for letting me share.</p>
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		By: Maria D'Marco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria D'Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/#comment-78006&quot;&gt;Maria D&#039;Marco&lt;/a&gt;.

oh wait -- that should have been my pup eating some-THING gross, not some-ONE....  jeeeeez]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2017/06/the-coup-day-3-putting-the-bite-in-sex-scenes/#comment-78006">Maria D&#8217;Marco</a>.</p>
<p>oh wait &#8212; that should have been my pup eating some-THING gross, not some-ONE&#8230;.  jeeeeez</p>
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		By: Maria D'Marco		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria D'Marco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post -- and I&#039;m going to sign up for your class on the 14th as well. My first stab at what would now be called &#039;erotica&#039; was in college, decades ago, and was also my first paid writing gig. It brought on a series of stories I asked the magazine to dub &quot;One-handed Wonders&quot;. The idea, of course, was that you could hold the mag open with one hand, while -- well, you know...
Anyway, I&#039;d love to have more of your insights, so am looking forward to the class. 
Does your rebel rabble have a special flag? or t-shirts? Glad your pup is okay...mine waits to eat someone gross and then puke on the days that I actually have to be somewhere for an appointment with someone who I&#039;ve waited 4 weeks to see.  :o)
Really enjoying your stint here...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post &#8212; and I&#8217;m going to sign up for your class on the 14th as well. My first stab at what would now be called &#8216;erotica&#8217; was in college, decades ago, and was also my first paid writing gig. It brought on a series of stories I asked the magazine to dub &#8220;One-handed Wonders&#8221;. The idea, of course, was that you could hold the mag open with one hand, while &#8212; well, you know&#8230;<br />
Anyway, I&#8217;d love to have more of your insights, so am looking forward to the class.<br />
Does your rebel rabble have a special flag? or t-shirts? Glad your pup is okay&#8230;mine waits to eat someone gross and then puke on the days that I actually have to be somewhere for an appointment with someone who I&#8217;ve waited 4 weeks to see.  :o)<br />
Really enjoying your stint here&#8230;</p>
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