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		By: Readers Crave Stories with a Twist: Tips for Writing Great Plot Twists - Kristen Lamb		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] it comes to stories, everyone LOVES a good twist. Whether this is in a movie, short story, or a novel audiences LOVE to be fooled. Twists and [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] it comes to stories, everyone LOVES a good twist. Whether this is in a movie, short story, or a novel audiences LOVE to be fooled. Twists and [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Kristen Lamb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90551&quot;&gt;DJ Cracovia&lt;/a&gt;.

THANK YOU! I really appreciate that ((HUGS)).]]></description>
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<p>THANK YOU! I really appreciate that ((HUGS)).</p>
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		By: Writing Links 3/5/18 &#8211; Where Genres Collide		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Writing Links 3/5/18 &#8211; Where Genres Collide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2018 12:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/ “A protagonist cannot become a hero/heroine without triumphingover a big problem, despite all we (as Author God) will throw at them. Once we know the problem, it’s far easier to have a sense of the ending.” I usually know the end though sometimes it changes depending on the story. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/" rel="ugc">https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/</a> “A protagonist cannot become a hero/heroine without triumphingover a big problem, despite all we (as Author God) will throw at them. Once we know the problem, it’s far easier to have a sense of the ending.” I usually know the end though sometimes it changes depending on the story. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: DJ Cracovia		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90551</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ Cracovia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2018 05:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On Monday mornings my inbox looks like a list of who&#039;s who in the world of romance authors, but I always look forward to reading your posts. I find your blogs easy to relate and I know you offer great advice. 
Look forward to next week&#039;s post]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Monday mornings my inbox looks like a list of who&#8217;s who in the world of romance authors, but I always look forward to reading your posts. I find your blogs easy to relate and I know you offer great advice.<br />
Look forward to next week&#8217;s post</p>
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		By: Kristen Lamb		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90446</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 14:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90389&quot;&gt;Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah he had BETTER have had an ending for the core problem. After 75 hours of reading time, LOL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90389">Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah he had BETTER have had an ending for the core problem. After 75 hours of reading time, LOL.</p>
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		By: Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90389</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 06:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90275&quot;&gt;Kristen Lamb&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes it makes good sense thank you. SK&#039;s &quot;The Stand&quot; had an ending that drove me nuts wondering what was going to happen to the two main characters. SK didn&#039;t say. The book just ended, leaving their fate unknown. But you&#039;re right, the main good-versus-evil conflict was resolved so &quot;The Stand&quot; fits the Ending-First approach just fine now that I rethink the whole issue. Like you said, there&#039;s a minimal duty authors owe to readers who have come along for a long ride.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90275">Kristen Lamb</a>.</p>
<p>Yes it makes good sense thank you. SK&#8217;s &#8220;The Stand&#8221; had an ending that drove me nuts wondering what was going to happen to the two main characters. SK didn&#8217;t say. The book just ended, leaving their fate unknown. But you&#8217;re right, the main good-versus-evil conflict was resolved so &#8220;The Stand&#8221; fits the Ending-First approach just fine now that I rethink the whole issue. Like you said, there&#8217;s a minimal duty authors owe to readers who have come along for a long ride.</p>
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		By: excessivelyperky		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2018 02:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, Luke could have gotten his way and been chosen for the Imperial Academy. Lord Vader inspects the newbies (one of Those Obligations of the people in power, etc.) and oh, wait, there&#039;s someone with the Force. Big time. 

Oops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Luke could have gotten his way and been chosen for the Imperial Academy. Lord Vader inspects the newbies (one of Those Obligations of the people in power, etc.) and oh, wait, there&#8217;s someone with the Force. Big time. </p>
<p>Oops.</p>
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		By: Kristen Lamb		</title>
		<link>https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90275</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristen Lamb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 01:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90271&quot;&gt;Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)&lt;/a&gt;.

Endings should be surprising and inevitable. Never mentioned tidy ;) . The core problem needs to be resolved. To riff a handful of examples since you mentioned Stephen King. In S.K.&#039;s &#039;IT&#039;, the creature is ultimately defeated, and Derry freed. In &#039;Carrie,&#039; Carrie finally accepts what she is and embraces her raw power. Her tormentors pay dearly...and so do a lot of innocent bystanders and the entire town. 

In &#039;1408&#039; the grieving and jaded writer is adrift, his marriage imploded and career a joke. It&#039;s only when he&#039;s held prisoner in the room, subjected to its unending torment, that he finally overcomes his bitterness, selfishness, and relinquishes control. 

He faces his guilt over his own powerlessness to save his daughter, comes to terms with his rage at a &#039;God&#039; who would permit her death as if &#039;good&#039; were the only supernatural force on the board. When he finally admits if that room is HELL, then evil exists. If there&#039;s hell, then this suggests perhaps there is also a heaven. Regardless, he changes enough as a person where he willingly sacrifices himself so the room can never have another victim. He might have been powerless to do anything to save his daughter&#039;s life, but he DOES have the power to end 1408&#039;s capacity to claim more lives/souls.

Endings can be scrubby, rough round the edges and leave one wondering about this or that and should. These little fuzzy threads are what generate conversation, debate and all-in-good-fun division among fans. But when we take an audience along for THAT long, the major problem should be resolved even if tragically (I.e. Hamlet).

You can gain a general IDEA of a reasonable way the problem could be solved and use that. You&#039;ll find your subconscious will be at play along the way and surprise even you ;) . I hope that helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://authorkristenlamb.com/2018/02/endingdeterminedbystoryproblem/#comment-90271">Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)</a>.</p>
<p>Endings should be surprising and inevitable. Never mentioned tidy 😉 . The core problem needs to be resolved. To riff a handful of examples since you mentioned Stephen King. In S.K.&#8217;s &#8216;IT&#8217;, the creature is ultimately defeated, and Derry freed. In &#8216;Carrie,&#8217; Carrie finally accepts what she is and embraces her raw power. Her tormentors pay dearly&#8230;and so do a lot of innocent bystanders and the entire town. </p>
<p>In &#8216;1408&#8217; the grieving and jaded writer is adrift, his marriage imploded and career a joke. It&#8217;s only when he&#8217;s held prisoner in the room, subjected to its unending torment, that he finally overcomes his bitterness, selfishness, and relinquishes control. </p>
<p>He faces his guilt over his own powerlessness to save his daughter, comes to terms with his rage at a &#8216;God&#8217; who would permit her death as if &#8216;good&#8217; were the only supernatural force on the board. When he finally admits if that room is HELL, then evil exists. If there&#8217;s hell, then this suggests perhaps there is also a heaven. Regardless, he changes enough as a person where he willingly sacrifices himself so the room can never have another victim. He might have been powerless to do anything to save his daughter&#8217;s life, but he DOES have the power to end 1408&#8217;s capacity to claim more lives/souls.</p>
<p>Endings can be scrubby, rough round the edges and leave one wondering about this or that and should. These little fuzzy threads are what generate conversation, debate and all-in-good-fun division among fans. But when we take an audience along for THAT long, the major problem should be resolved even if tragically (I.e. Hamlet).</p>
<p>You can gain a general IDEA of a reasonable way the problem could be solved and use that. You&#8217;ll find your subconscious will be at play along the way and surprise even you 😉 . I hope that helps.</p>
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		By: Deborah Makarios		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some of the feedback on my first novel said that readers were fairly sure where they were headed, but enjoyed the trip nonetheless. Not bad, but I think I can do better. So this time I&#039;m planning plenty more twists.
Two good examples: &lt;i&gt;Corpse Bride&lt;/i&gt; - how is a happy ending possible without going down the necromantic bigamy road? (yuck!) and Ted Dekker&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Thr3e&lt;/i&gt; - you think know what the twist is, it hits, you feel smug for a moment and then Blam! unexpected further twist hits you between the eyes with a steam shovel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the feedback on my first novel said that readers were fairly sure where they were headed, but enjoyed the trip nonetheless. Not bad, but I think I can do better. So this time I&#8217;m planning plenty more twists.<br />
Two good examples: <i>Corpse Bride</i> &#8211; how is a happy ending possible without going down the necromantic bigamy road? (yuck!) and Ted Dekker&#8217;s <i>Thr3e</i> &#8211; you think know what the twist is, it hits, you feel smug for a moment and then Blam! unexpected further twist hits you between the eyes with a steam shovel.</p>
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		By: Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jini Ellyne (J. Ellyne)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 00:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What you say about knowing the ending ahead of time and using that knowledge to inform the writing of a novel makes sense. I&#039;ve always loved a nice tidy ending where all the loose ends are tied up with a ribbon. And I rage internally when the BBTM doesn&#039;t pay the price for his or her evil deeds in the end. But then I read Steven King in his wonderful book &quot;On Writing: Memoirs of the Craft&quot; say that real life stories never have endings. He says life goes on afteer the book ends. Other things happen -- unless the entire world is destroyed cataclysmically. So if we leave the reader wondering what happens next, that&#039;s perfectly okay. I made good use of that idea in writing a series. I was so thankful because I was always so stressed previous to reading that advice about how to end a story. Using King&#039;s advice, I got into a habit of setting up an expected resolution of the BIG PROBLEM and then yanking the rug out from under the reader by writing an entirely different and unexpected ending, one that even I, the Author/God, didn&#039;t expect. I didn&#039;t do it to be mean to the reader or to get them to buy my sequel. I did it because I discovered a technique of going deep into the minds of my characters and letting them do what they would do if they existed in real life. I relinquished control to my characters. I loved the result. My characters came to life. I like to think that this technique made my readers care more about what was going to happen to my characters. That said, your post has given me ideas for my next novel. I have a complete plot outline for it, all except for two things. I don&#039;t have an ending. I know what I would like to have happen at the end but I don&#039;t know why it will happen and, if I give my characters free will like I have always done, I don&#039;t know IF it will happen. I think one of my issues with the plot outline is I do not yet have a clear image of the BBTM or the BIG PROBLEM. I know I should get that better formed before I start writing or the story will just ramble. I will, I promise, but I&#039;m still conflicted about whether I want to, or should, have a tidy ending in mind as I begin writing the story. Help please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say about knowing the ending ahead of time and using that knowledge to inform the writing of a novel makes sense. I&#8217;ve always loved a nice tidy ending where all the loose ends are tied up with a ribbon. And I rage internally when the BBTM doesn&#8217;t pay the price for his or her evil deeds in the end. But then I read Steven King in his wonderful book &#8220;On Writing: Memoirs of the Craft&#8221; say that real life stories never have endings. He says life goes on afteer the book ends. Other things happen &#8212; unless the entire world is destroyed cataclysmically. So if we leave the reader wondering what happens next, that&#8217;s perfectly okay. I made good use of that idea in writing a series. I was so thankful because I was always so stressed previous to reading that advice about how to end a story. Using King&#8217;s advice, I got into a habit of setting up an expected resolution of the BIG PROBLEM and then yanking the rug out from under the reader by writing an entirely different and unexpected ending, one that even I, the Author/God, didn&#8217;t expect. I didn&#8217;t do it to be mean to the reader or to get them to buy my sequel. I did it because I discovered a technique of going deep into the minds of my characters and letting them do what they would do if they existed in real life. I relinquished control to my characters. I loved the result. My characters came to life. I like to think that this technique made my readers care more about what was going to happen to my characters. That said, your post has given me ideas for my next novel. I have a complete plot outline for it, all except for two things. I don&#8217;t have an ending. I know what I would like to have happen at the end but I don&#8217;t know why it will happen and, if I give my characters free will like I have always done, I don&#8217;t know IF it will happen. I think one of my issues with the plot outline is I do not yet have a clear image of the BBTM or the BIG PROBLEM. I know I should get that better formed before I start writing or the story will just ramble. I will, I promise, but I&#8217;m still conflicted about whether I want to, or should, have a tidy ending in mind as I begin writing the story. Help please.</p>
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